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From De-Geniusing to Re-Geniusing — Andrew Freeman on the Signs of the UPwising Podcast with Steve Bhaerman

Can Inside-Out Education turn society right-side up?

In 1968, NASA found that 98% of children scored at genius level in creativity. By the time school was done with them, that number dropped to 2%.

Do the math. Do the aftermath.

Andrew Freeman, founder of Coherence Education, has spent his career reversing that trend. In this conversation on Signs of the Upwising, Andrew shares his Inside-Out Education model — designed not to standardize children into obedient performers, but to help them discover and develop their innate creativity, curiosity, coherence, and authentic gifts.

This episode explores:

  • How our educational system “de-geniuses” children through conformity, competition, and standardized testing

  • Why AI is making the old educational model obsolete — and what replaces it

  • Why students can no longer simply become “nouns” (lawyer, engineer, accountant) but must become “verbs” — active participants in shaping their own lives

  • How project-based mastery, emotional intelligence, creativity, and self-directed learning help children flourish

  • Why the one thing AI cannot replace is the spontaneity of human creativity

Education for the world we are actually entering.

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